last here in atlanta, we had an atlanta police officer that was shot. the individual -- and fortunately the officer was hit in the chin, he's going to survive. the individual who shot him is a convicted felon. he was arrested for aggravated assault on a police officer and a convicted felon in possession of a firearm. he has been arrested for this before. the clayton county police officer back in december that was killed, same thing. >> i get your point. do gun owners feel attacked at this point with what's going on? >> absolutely. as i mentioned, with the levels of violent crime and the murder rate dropping by 50% over the last 20 years, at the same time, the number of people who have purchased firearms and have firearms in their home have increased. so we have a larger number of firearms -- >> but you can't say that a lower crime rate comes from people having more guns in their home and if the murder rate is here and it drops to here -- >> if we look at it, the crime rates that are highest -- in the highest urban areas have the highest level of gun con